The next step by which the transcendent God becomes self-conscious consists in the appearance in the divine nous of the divine world, the idea of the world in its individual forms as the content of the divine consciousness. (Our minds are the souls interface between our spirit and our life on earth). John 17, verse 1: Thank you for reading this article and for taking the time to write; that is appreciated. Our Future After Death Resurrection on Earth or Life in Heaven? Rather it is to be found in the Scriptures. Many have the same opinion, but are afraid to express it. Qatar The seven-chapter book is balanced between descriptive and prescriptive material. The Bible teaches the opposite. Norfolk Island We are committed to writing about what God wants you to know not what some churches only want you to hear. Iceland The Trinity of traditional Christianity is referred to as the Godhead by members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day SaintsThe Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day SaintsThe church's core beliefs, circa 1842, are summarized in the "Articles of Faith", and its four primary principles are faith in Jesus Christ, repentance, baptism by immer. It is the will of God that every person belongs to a family of faith where they have a strong sense of . Narrow is the way, few there be that find it. We believe the Church of Christ comprehends the true brotherhood of man where each esteems his brother as himself and wherein the divine command to "love your neighbor as yourself" is demonstrated by the prevalence of social equality. Discussions and prayer over coffee or tea once a week is popular among many. Also you cant enter heaven. Thank you for reading this article and I pray you will learn much in your continued search for Bible truth. Like I stated, believing the Trinity doctrine isnt of crucial importance to being saved. Thank you for reading this article and for taking much time to give a detailed comment. Its amazing that people are so gullible to believe such a thing. South Africa Kazakhstan Hi, this is my first time visiting this website. Guinea-Bissau Jewish thinking using a Greek word. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free John 8:32, (NIV). I appreciate your comment and glad it gives you something to think about. That Monthly Period of Women Did God Curse Eve? Also, see Matthew 18:16. we will be either right or wrong. But the most precious gift awaiting you both is the possibility of an eternal life. Sao Tome and Principe Paraguay Jesus promised, "Upon this rock I will build my church" (Matt. Yemen Cameroon It doesnt say anything about scripture being perfect, or inerrant, or infallible, or all-sufficient. There are several non-biblical sources from antiquity that speak of Jesus, and I believe some are Jewish (EX: Josephus). Cayman Islands He is Gods Son, impregnated in Mary by Gods Holy Spirit. We call Them the Godhead. During the days when Christs apostles lived, the Gospel was taught with accuracy, but after their death, it did not take very long for the truth to become eroded with falsehoods and corrupted with politics. Little-by-little, inaccuracy crept in as the gospel message of Jesus Christ became more and more popular. We communicate with Him through prayer, as Jesus Christ Himself did. I hold nothing against people who do, or do not believe. That God is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, God bless us all. I believe Gods word, not the word of man!!! There are also some things I believe they get wrong, too. I am self taught using the word self lightly because what I mean is My walk with God has been without a church or fellowship, just me and God and His word. For those readers who may be interested in Messianic Jews, please see the article Judeo-Christian vs. Unless otherwise noted, scripture quotations are from the, The Dispute of Arius with Alexander, his Bishop,, Hermann, Ray, Sun Worship, Sex in the Bible, and Church Steeples: A Brief History of Pagan Rituals and Traditions Carried into the Christian Church, (, Hermann, Ray, What do you mean, Christ died for our sins? (, Hermann, Ray, John 1:1 Does this Bible verse prove Jesus is God? (. Id been an infant in christ for so long, my friends have challenged me and continue to challenge me, yet I am unmoved! And is the Word that created the zygote in Mary. I knew right away that If this holy trinity is so important Then why dont I know of it already? Some go to a church that is somewhat close to their beliefs for social support, but meet privately with others that have similar thoughts and ideas as you do. The situation became further aggravated by the conceptions of the special personal character of the manifestation of God developed by way of the historical figure of Jesus Christ; the Holy Spirit was viewed not as a personal figure but rather as a power and appeared graphically only in the form of the dove and thus receded, to a large extent, in the Trinitarian speculation. Stone, however, is a different story: he contended that Jesus was not the only true God. For him, the idea of co-eternal Father and Son was illogical and unbiblical, whereas Campbell understood it as a mystery that corresponds well with biblical revelation. There is a disconnect with The Organization they follow. We couldnt find that exact address. Thank you for taking the time to express your thoughts. And I pray also, despite the burden, you find a comfort zone. Like manyChristians, webelieve in God the Father, His Son Jesus Christ, andthe Holy Spirit. Galatians 3:28 Costa Rica I do feel better knowing some others feel the same as me. We are fundamentalists. He was so full of Gods spirit he was and is sin free unlike the rest of Gods creation. Most people read over it and dont understand what it all means. This question was answered through the Neoplatonic metaphysics of being. Norway 4.3.5 Contemporary social and political views. I guess the scholarly debate is if the scripture is indicating sameness or equality? 16:18). copyright 1992 by Ray Hermann. The Bible is filled with sexual innuendo, which celebrates sexual love. If you believe in the trinity I believe that is ok, since Jesus is supposed to be a part or manifestation of god (?) Recently I have been challenged on this, although had never heard of the trinity. The same teach that we are not to question Gospel teachings (as they teach it). Saint Helena Jesus Christ is Heavenly Fathers Son. Ecuador Just click the proper button at the end of each article. In the beginning of the physical creation of time and space God took action and uttered it into being, and the Divine authoritative Will, no matter what God expressed His will (Earthquakes, appearing to Abraham, burning bush, speaking through a donkey, miracles etc) was His Word at work. Jesus proceeded from deity as Gods son. Burundi I graduated from a church of Christ college. Georgia We keep your email address private we do not give, trade, share, or sell it to others. The Trinity is definitely not biblical truth and is completely a man-made concept. Anguilla Though the Godhead is made up of three distinct divine beings with certain different roles and characteristics, They are perfectly united in purpose. Over the years I searched for a religion that did not teach the trinity, in vane. Answer (1 of 5): I grew up in the church of Christ; that's my qualification for answering this question. "And Peter said unto them, Repent ye, and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto the remission of your sins and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" (Acts 2:38). I was raised not believing in trinitybut for a while was confused now after studying the Holy Spirit in bible its plain to me the trinity is man made.. My church teaches the trinity, I have spoke out that I dont believe in trinity but will not quarrel over such. So, I really find nothing unscriptural in their religion, but rather just of a different interpretation than my own. I am happy that you derived some personal peace from this article and I pray that you can use the studies you had with JWs to advance your relationship with God and his son. Carter demonstrates that the Campbells were very much in line with an orthodox understanding of the Trinity. Both online and in-person visits are fulfilled by missionaries in your local area. I am sorry but that just does make more senses to me and aligns with the line of Gods chosen ones before Jesus, such as Abraham and Moses, all of them spreading Gods message. Im sure that what you wrote will be helpful to many. Micronesia Tokelau I believe we all will be saved at the end. Cote d'Ivoire But whether you, or I, or others believe in the Trinity really isnt critical to being saved. Somalia There is one God and one mediator, the man Jesus Messiah..if they both were God and co equal, Jesus couldnt be the mediator between us and God . Mauritania Argentina Bahrain I would like my partner to also strengthen her belief in god. Russian Federation However, Jesus mentioned one thing that is important. Kiribati United Kingdom Historically, the thought of a Trinity derived its basis from Greek philosophers of the third century AD, before the first four (of seven) church councils were called to settle the controversial issue of the relation between Jesus Christ and God his father. He is an adjunct instructor at George Fox University and director of the Campbell Institute for Theological Education, a ministry offering accredited courses in Bible to college students in Oregons Willamette Valley. In the beginning was Jesus and the Jesus was with God, and the Jesus was like God, divine. Your kind comment is appreciated. Of course, we all know what a cult is, right? Vanuatu Thanks for viewing the article and adding your comment. A bookseller of religious texts may believe it can refuse to sell books to a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints because he doesn't believe it to be a legitimate religion . Another thought that is brought up is If Jesus is not God, how do you explain John 1:1? It is easy to print, download, and email articles. Members of the church of Christ believe In the Old Testament. Another group is the Apostolic Christian Church in America, which was formed in Lewis County, New York, in 1847. I hope you will return here from time to time. Listed on Blogspots He believes that most adherents in Churches of Christ are indeed Trinitarians but have simply overlooked the doctrine and remained aloof from discussion of its importance. And he died on the cross for you for your sines. Churches that accept the oneness belief include: United Pentecostal Church International, Affirming Pentecostal Church International, Apostolic Assemblies of Christ, Apostolic Assembly of the Faith in Christ Jesus, Apostolic Gospel Church of Jesus Christ, Apostolic Overcoming Holy Church of God, and Assemblies of the Lord Jesus Christ. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. Guyana 5 History. Mozambique If someone is uncomfortable in their local church, there is nothing wrong with worshiping our God from home, if we wish. Madagascar Poland Puerto Rico First Name *, Email Address *, Country * Uruguay Congo, Democratic People's Republic I always believe in the Trinity but I see your point of view. I do, however, wish to present some evidence to give you something different to think about, because while most large modern denominations claim God is part of a Trinity, not all think that way.1 Although some theologians glean the idea of a Trinity in the Gospels, it wasnt an idea that was taught. Armenia They work in harmony to help us come to know God, live righteously, be forgiven, and ultimately return to live with Them again. Tanzania I also believe that God and Jesus are two individual entities. 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The great Christian debate about the relationship between God and Jesus began a few hundred years after Jesus death and resurrection, when the Egyptian priest and Christian theologian, Arius of Alexandria, argued that if the Father begat the Son, he that was begotten had a beginning of existence: and from this it is evident, that there was a time when the Son was not.4 Arius did not like that Christian theology was being too freely mixed with Greek paganism, from which the Trinity idea came, and his statement has since been known as the Arius doctrine. Thank you for reading this article and taking the time to express your opinion. For being the firstborn,8 Jesus was Gods only direct creation and, thereafter, he used Jesus as the instrument through which everything else was created. It suggests that these three are co-equal, co-eternal, and together form a single divine entity. In an effort to increase the church membership, many pagans were brought in, and with the pagans came pagan ideas. We believe in God, the Eternal Spirit, who is made known to us in Jesus our brother, and to whose deeds we testify: God calls the worlds into being, creates humankind in the divine image, and sets before us the ways of life and death. 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The Outlaw Bible Student, https://outlawbiblestudent.org/hebrews-64-can-we-lose-our-salvation/. Your comment is appreciated. Lets think quantum physics. Chile Though this danger was consciously avoided and, proceeding from a Logos Christology, the complete sameness of essence of the three manifestations of God was emphasized, there arose the danger of a relapse into a triplicity of equally ranked gods, which would displace the idea of the oneness of God. Usually, in the Bible, it is translated from Greek and Hebrew to mean wind or breath and by several extended meanings: dominate feeling, spirit persons, and vital or active force. It is important, also, to understand this word has been used from ancient times to describe the experience of divine power working in, upon, and around men, and understood by them as the power of God.9 A popular Bible dictionary states that the Holy Spirit is the power or presence of God in nature or with individuals and communities, inspiring or empowering them with qualities they would not otherwise possess,10 as in the gifts of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. All church organizations teach somewhat differently from each other. There are others out there who believe like you do, but most are afraid to admit it. If that looks right to you, go ahead through the form! As you implied, if the Trinity is true, it should be obvious show it to me in the Bible. 4.3.4 Church history. Solomon Islands Thanks for sharing. Isle of Man Comments on John 1:1 by trinitarian William Barclay: If you dont receive the verify page, please try again after adjusting your email filter to recognize the email address containing: @outlawbiblestudent.org. Luke 10:25-28. et al. Please seek the LORD. He is a God of love. For an article titled Hebrews 6:4 Can We Lose Our Salvation? see this link: https://outlawbiblestudent.org/hebrews-64-can-we-lose-our-salvation/. He (God) became flesh. Kuwait I am awe stricken to have found this article, specifically because of my lack of understanding about the trinity. I have searched high and low throughout my life since I was the age of 8. God incarnate. May you and your partner gain a fuller and deeper understanding of Gods love for humanity, as well as gain evidence supporting a coming renewed new world of peace. Greenland Virgin Islands (USA) If under the age of 13, or the age of majority in your country, you may use this website only with the consent of a parent or guardian. Carter, who has decades of ministry experience and a doctorate in theology, is uniquely qualified to write this book. Italy Iraq Only Yahweh is savior, NOT Jesus (real name Yahshua). Suriname And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God" (Acts 8:36-37). How about the bible being the inerrant word of God? Christianity has made Yahwehs oral expression of thought into a physical person called Jesus (Yahshua), and then made Yahshua into a part of Yahweh, who is incorporeal into a Trinity. Over my life, I have found that none of them are 100% right. British Indian Ocean Territory The Churchs first Article of Faith states, We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.We believe They are three distinct personages, not one singular being. Saudi Arabia But Jesus has a beginning. 4.3.3 The Trinity. Today's Roman Martyrology commemorates: St. Holy See (City Vatican State) I connect myself, my husband, my children and my siblings to the altar of Zion ministry for protection, victory, favour, healing good health long life and prosperity Amen. Mali This is a difficult saying for us to understand, and it is difficult because Greek, in which John wrote, had a different way of saying things from the way in which English speaks. Ive been on a quest on finding truth about the trinity since its not really in the Bible. In the first two centuries of the Christian Era, however, a series of different answers to this question developed. A personage of spirit, He helps us learn and recognize the truth of all things, including the gospel. Angels from Heaven or Aliens from Outer Space? A questionable point of doctrine in Church of God doctrine is the Wesleyan teaching of total sanctification or sinless perfection in this world, which, according to the Church of God and others in the Holiness Movement, is not just the goal but a mandate for all believers. Jesus has saved my life, I read a lot of the gospels in some difficulty of my life. Malta All rights reserved. Estonia Yes, and thank you for taking the time to comment. But, I can find more to debate about in some larger Christian religions than I can in the JWs. I believe the trinity is a man made concept not biblical, God is our Heavenly Father, Jesus is his chosen son and to be a Christian one must believe that, John 3:16. Ive heard it too many times and thats why Im all done with Christianity. This is all a bit of an overwhelming view. Mormons say they believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Do Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Believe in the Trinity? The Holy Spirit is the help mate from God given by him to help guide the Apostles, a breath of knowledge for them. I pray that your experiences, although not easy, have allowed you to not only grow in faith, but to use them to understand and help others in their own search for knowledge.
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